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Here’s My Final Design Of An Electric Version Of A Classic American Wagon: A Car Designer Sketches Your Ideas

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After a reader asked me to sketch a modern, electric interpretation of a classic American wagon in our last “A Car Designer Sketches Your Ideas” installment, I showed you six different designs I’d come with. You then let me know which ones you liked most, and with that input, I’ve now come up with a final mockup. Here’s a look at what I think a modern electric version of an old American wagon could look like.

Some quick notes on the latest article by the other (more secret) designer here at The Autopian: Per his stereotype, I have spent long hours at my spotless drafting table wearing my black turtleneck, and getting imaginary clay all over my Zara black suede Chelsea boots (as a non-chief designer my budget doesn’t run to Miu Miu). I always hated working with clay, as it stinks and gets everywhere, even if you’re a snooty designer (as opposed to a clay modeler) just applying tape lines to a model.

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With that out of the way: We had some good discussion in the comments last week about how a modernized EV wagon should. I sketched you some options, and you chose what you liked; sketch four was by far the most popular theme despite having been probably my least favorite. I always encourage students to put their sketches up on a board for their peers to see, even if it is something they are not totally sure about. You never know what will resonate with those making the decisions.

I deliberately gave sketch four a retro front graphic, because sometimes even if you know something won’t work you draw it anyway, just to make sure. You need to establish what you don’t want to help guide which direction you do want.

Front three-quarter view of the high roof electric wagon

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In the image above, you can see I’ve tried to combine the overall theme of sketch four, with the front of sketch two, which was marginally the most popular treatment for the Down The Road Graphic (DRG).

[Editor’s note: Let’s define DRG real quick. Per Car Design News:

Designers talk about the DRG – Down-Road Graphics: the bold impression of the front of the car from 100m away. It can be the main device with which to make your brand recognisable at a glance.

-DT]

It’s bold without being aggressive, and has a distinct modern lighting treatment. American cars generally tend to favor a more assertive appearance, but by keeping it simple with bold shapes it’s not overdone or fussy.

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Lots of you mentioned having a stepped or ‘vista’ style roof, so there’s more headroom for third row passengers (and more cargo volume). While a great idea in theory, glass adds weight, cost and construction complexity (which is why some cars will use a black plastic cheater panel at the base of the A pillar or on the C pillar as opposed to a small window).

[Editor’s note: Here’s an example:

Image credit: wikimedia commons and Capital Chrysler Jeep Dodge (dealer) (edited by Jason Torchinsky)

-JT]

It’s important with features like this that they do actually offer a benefit to customers – there’s no point doing it as a stylistic flourish. Look at the roof of a Discovery 5 – the step is a bit half assed and really adds nothing extra in terms of practicality – it’s just a visual call back the earlier more utilitarian models. Do it properly or don’t do it all.

Front three-quarter view of the low roof electric wagon

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With that in mind I’ve imagined the vista roof as an optional extra (which is why the car directly above doesn’t have it); a long car such as our wagon is likely to have panel splits in the roof because of the size of the pressing. The rear of our car could have a horizontal split across the roof at the C pillar, and then the rear most section could be replaced with a vista roof that sits in place of the regular panel. A lot of attention would need to be paid to where the split lines go, as this would only be feasible if the rest of the rear glass was shared between both versions.

Rear three-quarter view of the high-roof electric wagon

Moving to the rear view, I’ve gone for a clamshell split tailgate to maximize the size of the opening. There’s no point having a huge interior volume if you can’t get anything in the damn thing. Likewise, I’ve added a small inner tailgate (like the Renault Modus) for those times when there’s not enough room to swing the whole lower tailgate down. The wrap around wood treatment was a popular idea, but I think combined with the vista roof it’s a bit too much and starts to feel too old fashioned, so for the low roof version it’s been changed to a body -colored trim piece. It’s always important to give customers an option for things that might be a bit divisive:

Rear three-quarter view of the low roof electric wagon

Remember this is only a couple of days work – in reality designers spend weeks and months churning out sketches and many reviews take place before a couple of favored directions emerge to be worked up into preliminary digital and clay models. So is this what you imagined an EV wagon could look like? Or have I spectacularly flubbed the landing?

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The Toecutter
The Toecutter
2 years ago

From an aesthetic perspective, this turned out nicely. It is exactly what the commentator asked for. If we weren’t saturated with these crossover abominations, this might be sold in their place.

The front is vaguely reminiscent of an 80s Oldsmobile Cutlass Cruiser, the rear an early 80s Dodge Diplomat Wagon, and side profile sort of like an Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser.

The extreme low-profile tires and slightly protruding from the side wheels probably wouldn’t work well in the real world, but there are plenty of options out there.

It was really cool seeing you bring this to an image we could all see.

Any idea on what sort of motor/controller/battery would be placed in it, or is that still undecided?

CarcosaFloormat
CarcosaFloormat
2 years ago

This looks heavy, fast, huge, and awesome. I would buy one yesterday. I’m young enough to have no direct nostalgia about this kind of car, but something about it just screams “accessible freedom” to me.

Is Travis
Is Travis
2 years ago

I’m actually curious as to why the reflection on the rear tire is at the rim level, but at the tire level on the front, I bet you had a bitch of a time getting it to this state of finished… so I feel like an asshole asking.

Sridhar Parthasarathy
Sridhar Parthasarathy
2 years ago

I liked the initial sketches but these … not so much.

The proportions seem off, almost childish. The key issue is the width, in my opinion.

RustyWombat
RustyWombat
2 years ago

I think the low roof design nails it, but then again my favorite sketches were 1 & 6 so I might be bias to the end result. Also, I like how you modernized the wood trim, it seems to fit in much better with more modern design while paying homage to a classic, but I’m sure you could make either trim optional on the low roof design? Super fun series, thanks for all the great insight!

Not Sure
Not Sure
2 years ago

No wait.. all the KC lights! And make it a two door. I’m probably gonna actually dream about this as I sleep tonight.

Not Sure
Not Sure
2 years ago

Cut that greenhouse off just behind the rear passenger windows and this gives off strong El Camino vibes. That’s how I’d customize it. Then throw in a detachable roof (like a 1st gen 4Runner),4 wheel drive, a slight lift and some beefy tires (AMC Eagle style). There you have it.. my dream car.

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
2 years ago
Reply to  Not Sure

I think you just made a full lineup of three additional models for minimal added tooling investment.

Alexander Moore
Alexander Moore
2 years ago

Loved the bit where you point out all the features on the Disco 5 design. You should consider making something like that a regular feature, akin to Cumberford’s By Design column in Automobile Magazine.

Scott Finkeldei
Scott Finkeldei
2 years ago

Seconded

FlavouredMilk
FlavouredMilk
2 years ago

Love to see that the front end you went with is essentially what I thought the best mix would be. This turned out great and I’m super excited to continue seeing these posts.

I’m tempted to dig out my old books and send you some scans of my old designs and see if any of them stand out to you.

Halftrack_El_Camino
Halftrack_El_Camino
2 years ago

I really quite like this. I think it looks a little stre-e-tched out (especially that rear overhang) but if I think of it as just a sketch (which it is) that would get toned down as it moved toward production, I get it. I like the green vista/woody option for myself, and I dig the overall shape. I’m wondering what those dark spots at the bases of the windows are, though. What are they for?

Drunken Master Paul
Drunken Master Paul
2 years ago

Love it. I get a mid 60s pontiac vibe, just a hint of GTO on the front. The wheels are fine, but I would go for a higher profile tire and definitely the vista roof.

Steve Karo
Steve Karo
2 years ago

I grew up in the 1970s with a Chevy Station wagon as the family’s daily driver and after reading this had to search the web to relive the memory. On my first search came this, http://www.stationwagonforums.com/forums/media/1970-chevy-townsman-wagon.7662/full?d=1359591797 , which looks very similar to the Blue Low Roof Sketch you created.

Just swap out the ICE, with a GM EV Crate motor, about 5000 extra pounds of battery, give her a quick paint restoration, and some tinted windows, and it is very close to your sketch. At least to someone like me who is very simple minded in the art department.

JC 06Z33
JC 06Z33
2 years ago

The two tone on the blue is awesome. I’ll take it in a slate blue/medium grey a la 2010 Impreza Outback Sports.

Although it looks like it already has grey skirts, so maybe it’s really three tone? Either way, sign me up. I’d love to get my wife into a wagon instead of the minivan she wants when our current three row SUV needs replaced. (Which is actually six months ago, but eff this car market).

Fueledbymetal
Fueledbymetal
2 years ago

“ Some quick notes on the latest article by the other (more secret) designer here at The Autopian: Per his stereotype, I have spent long hours at my spotless drafting table wearing my black turtleneck, and getting imaginary clay all over my Zara black suede Chelsea boots (as a non-chief designer my budget doesn’t run to Miu Miu). I always hated working with clay, as it stinks and gets everywhere, even if you’re a snooty designer (as opposed to a clay modeler) just applying tape lines to a model.”

I am truly entertained!

Cheers!

05LGT
05LGT
2 years ago

I can’t stop thinking I need to see it with plates on it. Maybe a little less rear overhang? The low roof works best for me, even though I preferred the *idea* of a vista. The hood needs a little character.

05LGT
05LGT
2 years ago
Reply to  05LGT

I want to see a Lucid Long-roof on the road.

Frankencamry
Frankencamry
2 years ago

The last two pictures gave me all kinds of bodyline deja vu, and I found why in a nearly matching shade of green.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/coconv/9507279093

I prefer the color matched wheels for sure.

The overall design is not my cup of tea, but I am at peace with not being in step with the buying public.

Manticore
Manticore
2 years ago

I love the green one! That touch of woodyness completes it.
I have a soft spot for long roofs. I had a 1966 Ford Fairlane in high school, a 1957 Ford wagon in my early 20s, and a 1973 Volvo 1800ES.
Unfortunately something similar will never be built unless it gets lifted and cladded.
But maybe we can hope that someone takes inspiration from your sketch to build a custom Buick Roadmaster Estate for SEMA or Autorama.

Chris Trapp
Chris Trapp
2 years ago

Give me some meatier tires and a two tone option instead of the wood on a vista roof version, and take my money.

Steve P
Steve P
2 years ago
Icouldntfindaclevername
Icouldntfindaclevername
2 years ago

Less aggressive fender flare in the back, plus some skinner tires. Those tires a would cost you 100mil in battery loss LOL

Mark Tucker
Mark Tucker
2 years ago

I like them both, but especially that green one – that IS the 2026 Vista Cruiser. If only Oldsmobile were still around to sell it.

Fawgcutter
Fawgcutter
2 years ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

GM could still build it as a Buick Sport Wagon: https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-american/coal-1967-buick-sport-wagon-forty-years-of-sky-roofs/ (I remember my childhood neighbor having one until he replaced it with a Suburban to tow his Airstream)

Gene1969
Gene1969
2 years ago

I like the designs but had to knock you two points for the Chelsea boots.

Chelsea? Really? How gouache.

Moctoes baby!

The Toecutter
The Toecutter
2 years ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Dude, you look sort of like Wez from “The Road Warrior”! I figured you’d be more of a “whatever you can scavenge” type.

RustyWombat
RustyWombat
2 years ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Hilarious, also this had me LOL’ing:
“I have spent long hours at my spotless drafting table wearing my black turtleneck, and getting imaginary clay all over my Zara black suede Chelsea boots (as a non-chief designer my budget doesn’t run to Miu Miu).”

ElectricOffRoaders .com
ElectricOffRoaders .com
2 years ago

Dig the proportions. Pretty cool with everything here, except for the horrid wheels. (And obviously it needs 8 more inches of ground clearance, a bull bar, a light bar, and a winch and so forth.)

Gilbert Wham
Gilbert Wham
2 years ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

That would have been splendid, IMO.

JKcycletramp
JKcycletramp
2 years ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Dog dish hub caps for the win!

Andrew Fortier
Andrew Fortier
2 years ago

I’ll take it in woodie, please.

Andrew Fortier
Andrew Fortier
2 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Fortier

I see you addressed that wood would not be available. There goes my preorder.

Citrus
Citrus
2 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Fortier

I thought wood was just an option, that you’d select if you’re classy.

BloggyMcBlogBlog
BloggyMcBlogBlog
2 years ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Can I get it in mahogany?

Steve Karo
Steve Karo
2 years ago

Bamboo since that is more eco friendly – you know to appease the tree huggers who will be both in awe and ire for your daily driver.

The Porscheoisie
The Porscheoisie
2 years ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Raw cork to protect from door dings and to provide a mobile pushpin board.

itsSOUP
itsSOUP
2 years ago

That Vista Roof is totally Discovery vibes. I like it. This comes with 1,000+ hp right?

Flatisflat
Flatisflat
2 years ago
Reply to  itsSOUP

Doesn’t every EV?

The Toecutter
The Toecutter
2 years ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Wagons are made for hauling things. This one’s made for hauling ass! I like it!

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