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How This Untouched 1996 Dodge Viper V10 Engine Became A Pointless, Stupid Collectible

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Dodge blew minds all the way back in the early 1990s when it released a V10-powered weapon named after a deadly snake. That engine was beloved for its bonkers 8.0-liters of displacement and the 400 horsepower it could deliver straight to the rear wheels. Hilariously, back in the early days, a clerical error saw one of these proud engines languishing in a crate, forgotten, and it never got fitted to a vehicle. As covered by Silodrome, that same engine, still untouched, is now up for sale on Bring a Trailer.

You want to know what’s even funnier? It’s not the first time this engine has gone on sale. In fact, this very engine was sold by Bring a Trailer last year, for the reasonable sum of $16,000. Now it’s being auctioned again, still having never been fitted to a vehicle.

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It seems, then, that this bold red V10 is always the bridesmaid, and never the bride. Like me, you might be wishing for this snake to snarl and sing one day, powering some devilish roadster down the blacktop—but I wouldn’t hold your breath. The story behind this one is a humdinger.

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The engine, pictured with (presumably) the guy who ordered the thing by mistake. And a tube of red touch-up paint.

As Bring a Trailer told us last July, the engine, serial number 6M80L/A03270813, was built by Dodge in 1996 as a crate engine. It was intended for use as a replacement for warranty or repair work. The part number was 05245801. The engine was sold complete with an alternator, power steering pump, AC compressor, oil-filter housing, starter motor, ignition hardware, exhaust manifolds, and all the necessary accessory pulleys. As you’d expect for a crate engine, the throttle bodies and exhausts were plugged to keep foreign material out. It was acquired by the then-seller in 2021, and they’d decided to move it on.

When posted last year, the auction listing included a video that told more of the backstory. It’s since been hidden on YouTube. Thankfully, The Drive reported on the engine’s amusing history at the time. Apparently, a Dodge dealership employee had been attempting to order a tube of red touch-up paint, but fumbled the order number and ordered a Viper crate engine instead. The engine arrived at the dealership but never got installed in a car as there was no car waiting to receive it. It was all a big mistake. The engine bounced around several owners in the subsequent years, eventually ending up on that auction in July 2023, where it sold for $16,000.

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The engine, as it appeared on Bring a Trailer in 2023.

Now the engine is back on Bring a Trailer. It appears the current owner has grown tired of hanging on to an expensive crate engine that is likely only serving as a mildly amusing conversation starter. Thus, they’re trying to move it on and recoup some money in turn.

Bidding sits at $7,200 at the time of writing, with two days remaining. That’s well below what it sold for last year, but the auction’s not over yet.

The engine is still in never-run condition, with the throttle body and exhaust covers still in place. It still sits on a tubular steel stand with lifting eyes bolted on to the heads. It’s worth noting, though, that the decades have taken a minor toll. The “VIPER” script on the heads is looking tarnished and worn. The exhaust manifolds are showing some rust, too, as is the pressure plate. Various other metal fittings and fixtures aren’t looking the freshest either.

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The devil is in the details.
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“Don’t you think she looks tired?”

I’m going to be quite honest with you. You should probably not buy this engine. Why? Because you cannot win. Yes, this thing is a one-of-a-kind museum piece. It’s a completely untouched crate motor from the dawn of the Viper. The problem is that this engine can only get worse from here. As it stands, many metal components on it are showing signs of degradation, and the rubber hoses are looking particularly poor, too. No surprise after almost 30 years.

If you buy this thing, one of two things will happen. Let’s explore both scenarios.

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Short of storing this thing in a thermally-controlled chamber, it’s hard to imagine how you could have stopped the degradation seen here.
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Doesn’t seem right to have it just sitting on wet tarmac.

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It’s quite dusty and dirty for a technically new, never-run crate engine.

Let’s say you want to run it in something. You install it in a car. That will ruin its value as a “never-run” engine. Plus, you’ll have to go over the whole thing beforehand, because various seals and pipes have probably all dry-rotted out. The state of the assembly lube in the engine is also questionable. You could try and run it as is, but it could throw a belt, spring a leak, or maybe even seize something. It’s probably a great engine with the right attention, but you could buy newer Viper engines without these problems, and you wouldn’t be spoiling a one-of-one donk.

The other scenario is that you buy it as a museum piece. That’s a bad idea, too. The engine is already looking a few degrees below “immaculate.” It won’t be long before some of the plastic clips and rubber hoses start literally falling apart. At that point, you’ll have to change some of those parts to keep the engine “complete” and in doing so, it will no longer be an all-original never-run Viper engine. You lose, again!

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The crate is pretty battered, too.

The only person who should buy this is a rich YouTuber who needs a gimmick for people to click on. Buy this thing, stuff it in a Crown Victoria, and enjoy your endless pile of money, race cars, and adoring fans.  Do a burnout, take some photos, and drop me a line with the story of how you got it running. You and I can at least get some positives out of this silly collectible. After all, let’s admit it. This thing is really just a waste of a good engine. Rev it up and let it live so this nonsense can end.

Image credits: Bring a Trailer

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Baltimore Paul
Baltimore Paul
40 minutes ago

So what was the correct part number for the touchup paint?

Chronometric
Chronometric
52 minutes ago

This applies double to any Dodge Demon or Indy Pace Car Corvette stashed in a plastic bubble.

Captain Muppet
Captain Muppet
1 hour ago

That’s a pretty engine.

Modern engines mostly look like plumbing and sensors, and are covered with bland slabs of NVH plastic. It makes me sad.

PaysOutAllNight
PaysOutAllNight
1 hour ago

I don’t see it as pointless or collectible. I see the prior purchases as pointless, if bought to be a collectible.

It’s just waiting for a chassis. I’m sure this will find its way into a vehicle. Probably a Viper but maybe something odd to be interesting.

I’d sooner have a never run NOS engine than a ratty oil burner.

It’s just a question of time and price, because eventually the cost of minor refurbishment of this paperweight will drop lower than the cost of building up some other used longblock.

Angry Bob
Angry Bob
1 hour ago

Build a motorcycle out of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9KIxKP0Wlw

V10omous
V10omous
2 hours ago

 but you could buy newer Viper engines without these problems

You could, but get ready to bend over.

https://www.viperpartsrackamerica.com/index.php/products/2010-dodge-viper-gen-4-acr-x-crate-engine-640-hp

NC Miata NA
NC Miata NA
2 hours ago

Apparently Dodge had a guy in the factory who was cutting cardboard with a pair of scissors into header outlet covers for Viper crate motors.

ChefCJ
ChefCJ
2 hours ago

Let’s just pool our money and buy this thing and fit it into Jason’s Pao. What a hilariously stupid use of this engine, it would be glorious

Totally not a robot
Totally not a robot
1 hour ago
Reply to  ChefCJ

Or rather, we’ll try to fit the Pao around this thing.

ChefCJ
ChefCJ
1 hour ago

I’m thinking rear engine set up, and then we’ll have to just fill the entire engine bay with concrete as a counter-balance

M0L0TOV
M0L0TOV
6 minutes ago
Reply to  ChefCJ

A Pao-wer Wagon if you will. I know it’s a hatch but it just sounds better.

Hotdoughnutsnow
Hotdoughnutsnow
2 hours ago

… or stretch the engine bay of a Miata.

Anoos
Anoos
2 hours ago

As a display item, I think I’d rather have a prettier non-running engine. I’d honestly rather have it without internal components like crank, pistons, cams, valves, etc just to make it lighter to move.

I guess if I had an ultra-low mile early Viper I could get obsessed and drop this in. It would be a bad idea, and would end up costing a full rebuild / refresh as well as the cost of the motor. In the end, the car would still be less original but it would have a slightly more interesting story.

Only barely more interesting, and only interesting to someone willing to sit through the story. It would basically be reserved for the white New Balance crowd.

Jonathan Hendry
Jonathan Hendry
2 hours ago
Reply to  Anoos

It’d be cool to arrange it like an “exploded diagram” with various parts hanging in space.

Maymar
Maymar
2 hours ago

Buy this thing, stuff it in a Crown Victoria

Point of order, the old land yacht we were looking for was Fifth Avenue.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
2 hours ago
Reply to  Maymar

It’d be a tough fit in an M-body. Maybe a ’78 Newport, last of the hardtop dinosaurs.

DV
DV
2 hours ago

Museum pieces often require ongoing maintenance; replacing the rubber components with new parts isn’t anything scandalous. We deal with this in vintage computing all the time. Capacitors need replacing, batteries need removal, cases need cosmetic restoration due to aging. So long as the rubber components are replaced with new, in-kind replacements and documented as such, it’d be fine.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
2 hours ago
Reply to  DV

Like a 1996 Buick Century with 34,000 miles. Runs great, mint interior, granny has tons of receipts. But every single rubber part on the car needs to go.

Jonathan Hendry
Jonathan Hendry
2 hours ago
Reply to  DV

Adam Savage’s videos on YouTube, visiting with the arms and armor department of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, are fascinating.

The Middle Eastern chainmail with text from the Koran stamped on every single ring is amazing.

4jim
4jim
2 hours ago

Wait, What? There are collectibles that are NOT pointless and stupid?

Bags
Bags
1 hour ago
Reply to  4jim

Hey man, you’ll be laughing when these Pokémon cards put my kids through college.

4jim
4jim
1 hour ago
Reply to  Bags

Good one. Just this weekend, I was listening to two guys who collect board games, and they were lamenting all the worthless football, hockey, and baseball cards they have in their mom’s attics.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
9 minutes ago
Reply to  4jim

I have a colleague with an insane collection of Beanie Babies. I really think they’re hanging onto them b/c one day… Of course, probably best to not decorate your work area with these valuable items, but what do I know.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
2 hours ago

Or, put it in that Viper sitting up on a pole in Kentucky. After all those decades up on a pole, I’m sure that engine is worn out.

StupidAmericanPig
StupidAmericanPig
2 hours ago

This is the correct answer!!!

RataTejas
RataTejas
1 hour ago

After all those decades up on a pole, I’m sure that engine is worn out.

That’s what she said…

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