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Let’s Look At The Taillights Used By One Of The Worst Cars Of All Time

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I’m not sure if this is a controversial take or not, but I feel pretty comfortable saying that the Bristol Type 603 – later known as the Bristol Britannia, Brigand, and then Blenheim, is, charitably, a steaming pile. It’s not so much that it’s a bad design or concept – it’s a fairly handsome (for the most part) old-school GT car, it uses decent and powerful Chrysler V8s, and I think in the first decade or so of production, it was a pretty appealing car.

But this thing lumbered on from 1976 to 2011 – and was based on a chassis that traces its origins back to 1946 – and over time became a vastly overpriced and obsolete relic with build quality on par with a toddler’s sandcastle and relying on nothing more than abject snobbery to remain alive. The build quality on these was just abysmal, though evidence of this was quite hard to find, because the head of Bristol, Tony Crook, absolutely detested journalists and would never loan a car to one to try out.

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When journalists did manage to get ahold of one to try, via various forms of skullduggery and blackmail, the results were never exactly positive. These are cars that cost upwards of $250,000, so it’s not like they need to get a lot of slack cut for being affordable, because they are very much not. The amount of classist bullshit tied up in these things is pretty staggering, and is really the only thing that sustained the brand for the last two or three decades. In that sense, it’s pretty remarkable, even if the cars aren’t.

Actually, I do have to give the Bristol Type 603 some credit for one thing, at least: they had one of the best spare tire placements of any car ever:

Bristol Spare 1

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That’s pretty great, I admit.

Now, I originally wanted to talk about the Bristol Type 603’s taillights, because Bristol never made any of their own, and borrowed them from other makers. Taillights are actually quite costly things to develop because of all the regulatory and approval hoops that have to be leaped through, so it’s often easier to just let another company just do the work and then make them fit, somehow, into your own design, which is what Bristol did.

What I like about studying the taillights Bristol used is that it sort of gives a good look at how taillights really do reflect the era of design they’re in, and how dramatically a set of taillights can update and change the look of a given car.

With that in mind, let’s start with a look at the first lights used, which were snagged from a Hillman Hunter:

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Well, I should say Hillman Hunter and off-the-shelf round (likely Lucas) lights from a catalog because there appears to be at least one example of that, too, as you can see above. These simple, rectangular Hillman lights were rotated to a vertical orientation, where they fit into the pontoon-sided design with a prominent rear-fender line that was common for the late ’60s and early 1970s, and since this car’s design was an evolution of the Bristol 411, introduced in 1969, that makes sense.

They were perhaps a bit too rectangular for the 603, which wasn’t especially curvy but wasn’t exactly crisp-edged, either, but these generally worked. Reverse lamps and what I suspect are rear fog lamps were separate units, flanking the license plate on the trunk lid.

In 1982, the 603’s name changed to names derived from old Bristol aircraft, and became the Britannia and Brigand, with the Brigand being the one that got a turbocharger. The look was tweaked a bit, with new taillights being the big change at the rear:

Bristlight Bedford

This time, the taillights are from the Bedford CF2 van, and despite their workhorse origins, are striking and interesting taillights. They’re excellent examples of the Layer Cake school of taillight design, even if they lack any real sort of “wraparound” dimensionality common to that category. Still, they’re visually arresting lights, and they incorporate all taillight functions into the main unit, freeing the trunk lid from having to house reverse or rear fog lamps.

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The amount of work these lights do to make the car have an ’80s feel is pretty remarkable; despite the body lines, those bold, rectangular, colorful lights pull that ’70s design into the next decade, with a bit of assistance from the redesigned bumpers. Those two elements are really all that changed at the rear of the car, and yet they just barely manage to get the job done. It feels, at least upon a casual glance, like an ’80s car.

In 1994, another update was undertaken, which is good from a taillight standpoint, because those Bedford lights really weren’t in line with 1990s taillight design trends. Bristol found another donor, and those lights changed the look of the rear of the car, now called the Blenheim, pretty dramatically:

Bristlight Opel

Bristol took the Blenheim’s lights from an Opel Senator B, which featured large taillights in a very river-rock-gently-curvy 1990s style, taillights that filled up a lot of area on the rear of the car and were divided into two sections per light, one on the corner, wrapping around the edge and featuring the tail/brake and turn indicator, and one on the trunk lid with the reverse lamp and rear fog/extra brake/tail.

On the Opel, the design of the car and the lights kept the two light sections looking visually connected, with black borders in a cruciform pattern hiding the division between body lights and trunk lid lights. Visually, they appeared as one cohesive unit.

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On the Bristol, due to the way the body was designed and the larger size of the rear fender area, there was a significant gap between the taillight’s sections, a gap that on some cars was blacked out, and on some cars was left body-colored, which made it even more noticeable.

It feels kind of awkward, to be honest, especially on the body-colored-gap ones. The gap really drives home that these lights were not actually made for this car, and I’m somewhat surprised they went with them at all. On the plus side, they once again do update the look of the rear, so now while it’s still awkward-looking, at least it seems to be an awkward-looking car from the 1990s.

Finally, there was one more taillight update made, though I think only one car was actually built, in 2009, to incorporate it before Bristol stopped building cars altogether:

Bristlight AudiYes, this time a 2000 to 2004 Audi A6 Avant donated its taillights, with the Bristol, it appears, covering up the upper corners of the lamps with a little angled bit of the trunk lid, a clever way to get a bit more of a distinctive look. It’s a shame only one of these was made – at least from a taillight perspective – because I think these Audi lights work very well and are well-integrated into the design.

The revised body-colored bumpers are also doing a lot of work here to update the Bristol’s archaic sheetmetal, and I think overall, you have to be impressed with how much the taillight and bumper changes manage to push this car three decades beyond its original design.

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Yes, I genuinely think that. accounting for the price and hilarious associated snobbery, the Bristol Type 603 is a rolling tub of turds. But, I have to hand it to Bristol for their determined and dogged attempts to keep the car updated, often through just taillight and bumper changes. If anything, I hope this impresses upon you the visual power of taillights when it comes to how we determine a car’s era. They’re not to be underestimated.

 

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AJ
AJ
22 days ago

Somehow, if this car were in the Craig Cheetham book, I’m thinking we’d have already read a long article in which Torch defends the Bristol and lauds its virtues…

Banana Stand Money
Banana Stand Money
21 days ago
Reply to  AJ

I came here to say the same!

Clupea Hangoverus
Clupea Hangoverus
22 days ago

Good heavens, shouldn’t that be VAUXHALL Senator?

The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
22 days ago

I continue to not understand the hate that the writers here and on the other site have for Bristol. No, the cars were not competitive in the modern era and they did deal with build quality issues towards the end, but they’re fascinating. They made one extremely-niche type of car for one extremely-niche type of person for decades without interruption. I also don’t think you can fairly label a car as shit simply because it’s overpriced and the company wasn’t run by Gandhi.

Captain Muppet
Captain Muppet
22 days ago

“ But this thing lumbered on from 1976 to 2011 – and was based on a chassis that traces its origins back to 1946 – and over time became a vastly overpriced and obsolete relic with build quality on par with a toddler’s sandcastle and relying on nothing more than abject snobbery to remain alive.”

Unlike the Beetle or 2CV that struggled on for decade after decade on 1930’s technology?

I know, they were cheap. But not that cheap.

Double Wide Harvey Park
Double Wide Harvey Park
22 days ago

That final model is Ssangyong levels of hideous.

Argentine Utop
Argentine Utop
22 days ago

You are correct. The original ’60s model is Sabra level of hideous. The ’70s model with the vertical stacked squares is Morris Marina levels of uglyness. The ’80s model with the square cake layers is Anadol levels of horriblitude. The ’90s one has contemporary Volga levels of design turpitude.
You got to handle them that they kept it coherent along decades.

Scotty Scott
Scotty Scott
22 days ago

Tail lights are expensive for low production cars because of the tooling, not the gubmint.

The tooling is hundreds of thousands of dollars/pounds/euros cash on the barrel head before you sell a single unit.

Making a bespoke tail light for a low production car is like making a bespoke steering column, and it’s stupid for the same reasons.

DonK
DonK
22 days ago

One of my favorite double entendres was a headline from Jalopnik about LJK Setright and this car marque: “The Man Who Loved Bristols,”

Theotherotter
Theotherotter
22 days ago

I couldn’t get through the first graf without thinking of LJK Setright.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
22 days ago

That’s nothing compared to tha harbor freight trailer lights on the Countach.
https://www.theautopian.com/how-lamborghini-completely-half-assed-the-lights-on-its-most-legendary-supercar/
Oh you did that already.

I think being overpriced frumpy mystery cars was Bristol’s business plan all along,.the point being that if you owned one you could afford to buy one, maintain it, and didn’t care that it was a turd.
Sort of like having a mistress just to stand up on dates so she would make a scene at a restaurant and annoy everyone you know without needing to show up yourself.

Stefan
Stefan
22 days ago

The A4 Avant lights are the worst in my opinion

Last edited 22 days ago by Stefan
Nicholas Nolan
Nicholas Nolan
21 days ago
Reply to  Stefan

I agree, makes the car look like a terribly designed Audi TT concept car.

Chris Stevenson
Chris Stevenson
22 days ago

I just noticed the number plate in the top shot. Must have cost a pretty penny buying that number out of the back of What Car? magazine!

StupidAmericanPig
StupidAmericanPig
22 days ago

I just read the linked review. From the horribly grainy pictures it seems like the review is a little harsh. I mean the dash looks sufficiently posh and overall it seems to pull off the British aesthetic. I wouldn’t call it a beautiful car but I don’t know that many status vehicles meet that mark either. The whole slant of the article just seems like the author had a bad week that day.

The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
22 days ago

British automotive journalists hated Bristol because they never gave them cars and hit pieces like that were common. I think a lot of people today think they hate Bristol because they’re just regurgitating something Clarkson said or whatever. They’re a fascinating company who somehow managed to build a cottage industry luxury car, which is interesting in its own right.

StupidAmericanPig
StupidAmericanPig
22 days ago

Interesting.. thanks for that background info. I want to know more about Bristol now. Time to find a rabbit hole.

The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
22 days ago

There’s a great book about Bristol called A Very British Story or something like that. I bought a copy years ago and it opened my eyes to what a cool company they really were. It also makes all this random hate seem all the more ridiculous.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
22 days ago

My understanding is that Bristol’s build quality deteriorated over time, as production volumes dwindled, their staff was cut back, and the 1970s vintage stamping dies wore out. After a certain point, they didn’t have the money or resources to design a new car anymore, but were still able to keep ticking along with what they had, until they couldn’t even do that (scrap metal thieves also played a role).

Similar things happened at Reliant, Checker, and Avanti, and probably a number of low volume automakers that gradually turned into micro-volume automakers and fell further and further behind the rest of the industry as the decades went on. Rolls-Royce and Bentley also went through a rather embarrassing period in terms of quality control in the later 20th century.

Also, Morgans are apparently not all that well put together and probably never have been. The myth of the superiority of the handbuilt vs machine built car has always been pretty much a myth, aside from maybe a few very specific trades involved in specific parts of the process.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
22 days ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

The advantage of hand built things, is that the are very repairable. Leica film cameras were a good example. They would build them then literally bang on them with hammers until they were in spec. Statistical quality control only works when you are making a lot of something.

Fire Ball
Fire Ball
22 days ago

and was based on a chassis that traces its origins back to 1946

Actually back to 1936. The chassis is based on the pre-war BMW 326.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
22 days ago
Reply to  Fire Ball

Which is exactly why they had spare tires mounted in the fenders, 1930s cars were just proportioned in a way that allowed that

Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
22 days ago

Today’s taillight quiz:
What taillights were featured on the Noble M12/M400 and Rossion Q1?

Philip Dunlop
Philip Dunlop
22 days ago

The M12 used those from the Mk1 Ford Mondeo (specifically the saloon). The M400 and Q1 do look the same as eachother, but different to the M12.

Alexander Moore
Alexander Moore
22 days ago
Reply to  Philip Dunlop

Correct! On the other hand, the M400 and Q1 used EF-B series Sonata taillights (the one that had those ugly Mercedes-esque double-bubble headlights).

https://i.redd.it/nt4ttnu5vpu91.jpg

Philip Dunlop
Philip Dunlop
22 days ago

I had a feeling it was the Sonata but at the risk of looking like a gobshite, didn’t want to commit!

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
22 days ago

So, Torch, speaking of world’s worst cars, when are we going to see another edition of the redemption series?!?

Maybe you should go easy on yourself and make it a weekly series. There are 300-ish cars, right? That will only take ~6 years to get through. I plan on sticking around for that long.

Nicholas Nolan
Nicholas Nolan
21 days ago

Hear, hear! A Monday or Friday series. A great way to start off a week or a palate cleanser for one.

Cerberus
Cerberus
22 days ago

The way those fog and reverse lights are unevenly tacked onto the tails of two of them, the fitment on the Opel version, and the rattle can cheapness of the black trim reminds me of any number of 20+ year old hand-me-down beaters in the boy racer section of a Pep Boys parking lot. Did anyone actually look at the one they were buying before handing over a check? Is the snobbism alone really that appealing? Yeah, OK, The Emperor’s New Clothes, but there are plenty of snob cars that actually offer something in return.

I’ve only ever seen one Bristol, I think it was a 404. Nothing stood out as being badly made, but I also wasn’t terribly interested as there were cooler cars around, it was more just curiosity for being the first one I’d seen and it was decent looking enough. The Fighter seemed kind of neat, if more like a kit car than an established OEM with the typical exaggerated claims one might expect from a kit maker. LJK Setright famously loved Bristols, so I’m surprised they (at least the later ones) are such trash. Maybe it was the earlier ones he was writing about?

AlfaWhiz
AlfaWhiz
22 days ago

Taillights police! The last donor is in fact a 2001-2004 Audi A4 Avant (B6), not an A6. I’ll walk myself out now.

Last edited 22 days ago by AlfaWhiz
Eric Gonzalez
Eric Gonzalez
22 days ago
Reply to  AlfaWhiz

Thank you! It was driving me nuts that Torch got it wrong and I’m actually surprised he didn’t catch this one before publishing the article. The tail lights are clearly different.

Fire Ball
Fire Ball
22 days ago
Reply to  AlfaWhiz

Was going to comment on that too. Wrong tail lights.

SCJeff
SCJeff
22 days ago
Reply to  AlfaWhiz

Thank you, that makes much more sense than the trunk closing over the corner of the lights.

Tankdeer
Tankdeer
22 days ago
Reply to  AlfaWhiz

Came here to post the same thing. B6 not C5 lights. Glad I’m not the only one

I drive a boring SUV
I drive a boring SUV
22 days ago
Reply to  Tankdeer

Same 🙂

Chronometric
Chronometric
22 days ago
Reply to  AlfaWhiz

Especially since the A4 taillight design influenced many copycats in the ensuing years.

Fourmotioneer
Fourmotioneer
22 days ago
Reply to  AlfaWhiz

I woke up this morning and I was talking to god. “Someone is wrong on the internet” he said. Thank you for answering my prayer.

Argentine Utop
Argentine Utop
22 days ago
Reply to  AlfaWhiz

a) Torch was hacked and we have to debug him.
b) He was checking if we are all awake.

Mr. Canoehead
Mr. Canoehead
22 days ago

Years ago, someone (who was probably desperate to find a present for Christmas and heard I was a car guy) gave me a coffee table book called “The Great Book of Sports Cars”.

Along with the usual suspects (Porsche, MG, Triumph, Corvette, etc.) it had pages and pages devoted to Bristols. I’m not sure why the author thought that they qualified as sports cars – they certainly didn’t seem to fit the category.

I’d never heard of them before (or since). Trust Torch to bring them up.

Maymar
Maymar
22 days ago
Reply to  Mr. Canoehead

It was the 1991 edition of the Observer Book of Cars for me (what a guide to British market cars was doing in a Canadian book store, I have no idea).

I still made the effort to seek out their showroom in London in my visit though, even if by that point they were only reselling used ones.

P161911
P161911
22 days ago
Reply to  Maymar

I seem to remember the showroom being on a major thoroughfare. I passed it a couple of times either on a train or in a taxi. It has been over 20 years since I was there.

Maymar
Maymar
22 days ago
Reply to  P161911

Yup, Kensington High Street, it’s an Indian Motorcycle dealer now.

DriveSheSaid
DriveSheSaid
22 days ago

With the article headline, I could taillight away that you wrote this, Jason!

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
22 days ago

All car designers should begin with the taillights and proceed out from there.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
22 days ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

If I recall correctly – this is almost exactly what Volvo did with the first S60 – as the car was designed from back to front.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
22 days ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

If my mother’s S60 is typical, it was designed ass backwards.

Nic Periton
Nic Periton
22 days ago

Now work out where the lights on a Bristol Fighter came from!

Autonerdery
Autonerdery
22 days ago

The Audi lights are from a B6 A4 Avant. The little kink in the trunklid is matched to the shape of the lights as designed by Audi.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
22 days ago

Jason, I think you meant the A4 Avant for the updated lights.

Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
22 days ago

Hmm, now you are judging what’s (one of) the worst cars of all time, has all that looking in that horrible book by that horrible guy somehow gotten to you?

I always thought it looked like a stretched Ford Escort Mk2, and really unappealing. I would like a Bristol from before they got strange and ugly – just because! – I think the last decent one was the 411 .

Last edited 22 days ago by Jakob K's Garage
Adam Browne
Adam Browne
22 days ago

The 411 also had beautifully integrated taillights – from a Hillman Minx, I believe?

Ewan Patrick
Ewan Patrick
22 days ago

411 is correct. A neighbour of mine when I was a kid had one and it was just elegant and so much classier than another neighbours Rolls.

Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
22 days ago
Reply to  Ewan Patrick

Sounds like a nice place to grow up, my childhood was filled with bland Fords and Opels, so I’m compensating now with Porsche, Figaro and Mercedes-Benz… 😉

Phuzz
Phuzz
22 days ago
Reply to  Ewan Patrick

Where did you grow up?!

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
22 days ago

Hmm, now you are judging what’s (one of) the worst cars of all time, has all that looking in that horrible book by that horrible guy somehow gotten to you?

I was thinking the same thing. However, if Bristol was charging upwards of $200,000 for these things in the 21st century, I’d say this is one car that deserves the ridicule. At least for the ’94s and newer. God, using those Opal lights on that car would have been a crime even if they only charged $20,000 for it in 94.

Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
22 days ago

I agree, it’s totally ridiculous and rather ugly, and apparently bad as well.

The old ones from the sixties (411 and the ones before) suited their time better, like some kind of Rolls Royce coupees, exclusive beautiful grand tourers.

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