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The Legendary Volkswagen Phaeton Has A Second-Generation, And Just One Of Them Exists

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Twenty years ago, Volkswagen shocked and puzzled the automotive world with the release of the Phaeton. One of the wild fruits of labor of then chairman Ferdinand Piëch, it was a Volkswagen that wrapped pleasure, pain, and horrifying running costs into one astoundingly luxurious sedan. Volkswagen actually considered giving it a second-generation, and went as far as to build just a single running example before scrapping the project. Now, we finally get to see what could have been.

Volkswagen of the late 1990s through early 2000s was properly insane. At the helm was none other than Ferdinand Piëch, a grandson of Ferdinand Porsche, engineer, and someone who could totally pass as a James Bond villain. He’s often credited with turning Volkswagen Group into what it is today. Under Piëch’s rule, Volkswagen purchased Bentley, Lamborghini, Rolls-Royce Motors, and launched the modern incarnation of Bugatti.

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Volkswagen’s expansion would be notable enough, but the Group under Piëch then proceeded to create some of the wildest cars that the world had ever seen. The list of VW Group bangers during this era include the off-road sleeper Volkswagen Touareg/Porsche Cayenne, Bugatti Veyron, Volkswagen Golf R32, Volkswagen New Beetle, Audi A8, Audi TT, Volkswagen Lupo 3L…the list just goes on. And the concepts and engines were even nuttier. Remember the Golf GTI W12-650 and the infamous W8 engine?

Another vehicle that was the result of madman Piëch was the Volkswagen Phaeton.

Volkswagen Phaeton And Volkswagen Phaeton D2 (concept Car)
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Piëch allegedly set ten standards for which the Phaeton was to meet. Apparently, most of these standards never reached the public, but the few that did perfectly illustrate why the Phaeton is adored by hardcore Volkswagen fans. One requirement doesn’t sound all that sexy, but it was that the vehicle needed a torsional rigidity of 37,000 N·m/degree.

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Another is that the Phaeton needed to reach 190 mph without vibrations. And maybe the most absurd, but the Phaeton needed to able to drive all day at 186 mph in 120 degree temperatures while keeping the cabin at a cozy 71.6 degrees. [Editor’s Note: What the hell was Ferdinand planning to do with this car? – JT]

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The original Phaeton was available with a variety of engines from the corporate 3.2-liter VR6 to the 3.0-liter V6 TDI and all of the way up to the infamous 5.0-liter V10 TDI and 6.0-liter W12.

The cheapest VR6 models came standard with front-wheel-drive for a couple of years, but otherwise these engines spun all four wheels through 4Motion Torsen-based all-wheel-drive. Of course, Piëch’s lofty goals are best achieved with the big, complex engines like the V10 TDI and W12.

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Here in the States, we got either a 4.2-liter V8 or that 6.0-liter W12. Power ratings got as high as 444 hp with the W12 and 310 hp with the V10 TDI.

Volkswagen’s attention to detail throughout the Phaeton was incredible from the LED taillights to the trunk hinges. The hinges were legitimately pieces of art and were created by Campagnolo, an Italian bicycle company.

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It went further, from 18-way heated, massaging, and cooled seats to multi-zone climate control, air suspension, motorized doors to reveal or hide the HVAC system, and an overall fit and finish that was nothing like anything else with a Volkswagen badge.

I owned a Phaeton for a brief period in 2021. It was a bit of a rescue, having been sitting dead for an unspecified amount of time. The previous owner got it back together by raiding three other dead Phaetons and a Porsche Cayenne for parts. The raid included a new KESSY security system, ABS module, entire sunroof cassette, and many, many more parts.

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Mine worked well for all of an hour before the troubles started. It had a knack for overheating and the various electronics began failing throughout the car. I would later discover that the front air-suspension bags had a massive leak and would sometimes not come back up. I ran from that Phaeton as fast as I could, selling it to my Volkswagen mechanic. Last I heard, he was over $4,000 into repairs and it’s still not driving because things keep breaking. And remember, he’s not paying labor on those repairs.

Despite all of that, the Phaeton is to this day the most comfortable car that I’ve ever driven. And it’s certainly one of the quietest.

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Volkswagen once noted that the glass factory [Editor’s Note: Not a literal glass factory, that’s a nickname for a very glassy VW car factory – JT] in Dresden, Germany could produce 20,000 Phaetons a year.

Unfortunately, sales never hit that. The Phaeton launched in 2002 and by mid-2006, just 25,000 of them had been built. Volkswagen expected the North American market to bolster sales, but it didn’t. Volkswagen sold just 1,433 in the States in 2004, then a mere 820 the next year. The plug would be pulled the very next year.

You’d think that with such bad sales that the Phaeton would have never lasted as long as it did. But thanks to Chinese interest, the Phaeton soldiered on to 2016, eventually selling just 84,253 units. And Volkswagen wasn’t done, because as it revealed today, VW Group was fully ready to give the world a second-generation.

Volkswagen Phaeton D2
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The Phaeton D2–as the project was called–was brought to life after a selection process involing four concepts was narrowed down to one. The design by Head of Exterior Design Marco Pavone, and Head of Interior Design Tomasz Bachorski, was chosen. One functional prototype was built, and it rode on the MLB platform. MLB stablemates include the Audi A5, Audi A7, Porsche Macan, and more.

The platform of the new Phaeton would have been less extreme than its predecessor, but it certainly looked the part. Check out this interior!

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The dashboard follows a similar layout as the old Phaeton and of course, it’s laden with the tech that a vehicle like this would be expected to have today. There’s a curved display screen up front, displays in back, and like the old Phaeton, the interior is built around a lounge concept. Cream leather is broken up by real wood.

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Volkswagen says that this vehicle was built to be presented to Volkswagen Group’s Supervisory Board for the production green light. However, it appears the fallout of Dieselgate had taken another victim. Volkswagen notes that the company was in the middle of its shift to electric vehicles, and thus decided not to proceed.

But at least one part of the Phaeton D2 did make it into a production vehicle. That curved display made it into the 2018 Volkswagen Touareg.

Volkswagen Phaeton D2
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It’s hard to say if the Phaeton’s successor would have been a hit. It certainly has the looks and the tech. And it doesn’t appear to be as horribly complex. But it was still a very luxurious vehicle wearing the badge of the company that sold you the New Beetle, so there’s that. Still, I’m happy that it was built and hopefully, perhaps one day I can convince Volkswagen to let me drive it.

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Adrian Clarke
Adrian Clarke
2 years ago

I think ‘prototype’ is a bit of a misnomer. Test mules and engineering prototypes are essentially hacks to test and validate new components, drivetrains etc., usually under the body of the previous model (or whatever they can make fit).
Seeing as this was presented to the board, it’s likely a drivable ‘hard model’. Essentially a hand built concept car representing the final design. These can, to the untrained eye look and somewhat function like a real car, but are powered by electric motors for low speed trundling about. They can use an ICE (companies will sometimes sacrifice the platform of a real car in this case).

Demnjt
Demnjt
2 years ago

I lived near Dresden in 2004-05 and vividly remember seeing a cortège of black Phaetons lined up outside the Semperoper one afternoon. I must have taken fifty photos, which are languishing on a usb drive in all their 0.5 megapixel glory. Those cars were understated, but extremely pleasing to the eye in person.

John Jackson
John Jackson
2 years ago

I bought a 2 year old 3.0TDi in 2013 and had it for 6 years. I put roughly 65,000 miles on it. It was the most beautiful car to drive and would return up to 40mpg on my commute. The engineering design was amazing, like when the car would lower itself at 90 mph and switch on the headlights. The no-draught design of the ventilation system, the independently driven wiper arms, the dual batteries. I paid for a VW warranty during my ownership which cost alot of money; but peace of mind for me . If you get chance, download the SSPs that cover the Phaeton and appreciate its design features.

Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
2 years ago

The Phaeton gave us what I still consider to be the best COTD ever in othersitepnik.com. Certainly the most memorable for me, since I don’t think there’s any other COTD I memorised. Something to the effect of:

Commenter 1: “I once tooted at another Phaeton and the other guy gave me the middle finger.”

Commenter 2: “He thought you were a Passat.”

I can’t possibly explain how funny I think both this situation and the interaction in the comments is.

Phuzz
Phuzz
2 years ago

I’ve seen one or two on the road, but then I wonder how many more I didn’t notice because I just assumed it was a Passat

SquareTaillight2002
SquareTaillight2002
2 years ago

Mercedes and BMW understand the American (and Chinese) German car market. Make it ugly and outlandish so people know what you are driving. Quality and refinement is for old money and that’s a limited market. There is lots more new money and poseurs in the world.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
2 years ago

I see a bit of Arteon on the front end.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
2 years ago

“Wouldn’t it have been far more impressive if it could idle all day in high heat and maintain the cabin temperature? Even my new cars seem to have a hard time with this, especially if the recirculate function is off.”

Even better have the engine OFF and maintain the cabin temperature. Achievable ( I think) with a fully charged PHEV battery and an electric A/C compressor.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
2 years ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

I really hope PHEVs incorporate that as a feature. Tesla has “dog mode” and I’m not aware anyone else who has it.

Root
Root
2 years ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

My 2016 BMW X5 PHEV will keep the cabin conditioned as long as the battery lasts (which, admittedly, isn’t very long…)

Oleksiy Potapov
Oleksiy Potapov
2 years ago

I think one can say, that the spirit of the Phaeton still lives on in the VW Group, specifically in their Chinese market. Look up the Phideon. It’s based on the MLB, has simpler engines, the 2.0 EA888 and the VR6, unit recently. It’s probably not as bonkers mechanically as the Phaeton was, but has that look to it. While you’re at it, just check out the Chinese market VW model range. It’s sedan heaven! the Chinese did not get the memo that it’s now CUVs all the time. I have a little envy on that.

Kyree
Kyree
2 years ago

One other thing…from the rear, this looks uncannily similar to the 2017-2020 Lincoln Continental, ironic since Bentley’s head designer accused Lincoln of ripping off Bentley styling with that car’s concept.

Kyree
Kyree
2 years ago

As you know, I have a strange fascination with longitude-transaxle cars, which include the original Phaeton, apparently this Phaeton V2, and everything on the MLB platform.

It was strange because the Phaeton was on the D1 platform that was shared with the Bentley Continental/Flying Spur family. It was very similar to the D3 A8, only in steel, rather than the A8’s aluminum construction. Crucially, both platforms used the “Audi” layout, with the engine slung out at the front of the car, and the front of the longitude transaxle in line with the front wheels. And the current iteration of that layout is called MLB, encompassing almost every Audi, as well as some Volkswagen, Porsche, Bentley and Lamborghini models.

However, with the newer Continental/Flying Spur family, Bentley actually switched to a traditional longitude-RWD setup, the Porsche-developed MSB platform that is shared with the 2017+ Panamera.

I’m curious whether the V2 Phaeton would have been a steel iteration of the MSB platform, or aluminum, like the A8 (now in its fifth generation) continues to be.

(Side note: Speaking of longitude-transaxle vehicles and the MLB platform, I now own a 2013 A8L 4.0T. I’ve had it less than a month and it has already racked up $4,000 in bills; I can only imagine how much a Phaeton would cost to own).

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
2 years ago

Didn’t William Shatner have one of these? Even he couldn’t afford the maintenance, and he’s a celebrity 😀

unclesam
unclesam
2 years ago

Those Campy hinges are just… ::chef’s kiss::

I adore their bike stuff, and aspire to one day own one of their big corkscrews (https://www.campagnolo.com/WW/en/store/big_the_corkscrew). I know they used to have a big sideline in automotive wheels, but now I’m wondering if they’ve graced any other notable cars.

FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
2 years ago

The Phaeton didn’t sell because what’s the point in having expensive things if they don’t tell everyone around you that you’re rich? How can you look down your nose at the working class from a Volkswagen? How will regular people know that you’re better than them?

I’d love to have a Phaeton if not for the fact that they are all broken all the time. Ol’ Ferdinand should have put something about reliability in his famous spec list.

KIP AMORE
KIP AMORE
2 years ago

“wildest cars that the world had ever seen” is misspelled. It should read “least reliable cars that the world has ever seen.”

Nobody seems to understand this but me, but Germans are TERRIBLE engineers, preferring hypercomplicated solutions to problems that never existed, and then executing them poorly. W8 engine, biodegradeable wiring harnesses, IMS bearing, Vanos failure, S Class air suspensions, the VR6, etc. Hell, the V2 rockets were crap too, along with the Beetle. My mother sold her 74 bug when she learned that it made heat by drawing air across the exhaust pipe, so even the slightest exhaust leak would be guaranteed to kill you. Her exact words were “fuck that.”

Tommy Helios
Tommy Helios
2 years ago
Reply to  KIP AMORE

The best lie ever sold by the DTM groups is that of German engineering.

Gabriel Jones
Gabriel Jones
2 years ago
Reply to  KIP AMORE

Almost all piston planes use exhaust heat to warm the cabin. We spend 3 bucks on a carbon monoxide sensor that gets stuck near a vent. Open the window and turn off the heat and you’ll be good.

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
2 years ago

I’ve always enjoyed the hubris of VW in the ‘90s: just bonkers stuff that leaves me shaking my head-but admiringly. That said, I steered my friends (in their 70s) firmly away from one, refusing to even go look/test drive the Phaeton.

If I ever see one in a junkyard, I’m going to try and score one of those hinges and find a way to use it just to have the pleasure of watching it flex.

Ivan256
Ivan256
2 years ago

I remember the first time I saw a Phaeton on the road. I had never heard of it, and it looked…. noticeably special. Extremely precise for a VW. It had presence.

It provoked desire. So went home and immediately looked it up….. It’s a VW, right? I can probably afford it. Then I did a spit take when I saw the price. And I wasn’t even drinking!

People who say “caught up on the badge” have it wrong, I think. It’s not that people didn’t want it because it was a VW and they wanted to show off a better badge. It’s that the wrong people noticed it. Cars like that are low key anyway, but when you’re shopping for one the brand is the first filter. You know who makes the kind of car you’re looking for, so that’s where you look. And VW doesn’t make that kind of car. At least not without calling it an Audi.

Martin Ibert
Martin Ibert
2 years ago

So said. The Phaeton was a phenomenal car. Stupid market getting all hung up on the VW badge instead of seeing how fucking awesome it was.

Ivan256
Ivan256
2 years ago
Reply to  Martin Ibert

It was $120k in 2005 dollars. I don’t think it mattered what badge they put on it. Almost nobody was going to buy it.

Kyree
Kyree
2 years ago
Reply to  Ivan256

The W12 ones were, yes. The V8 ones were much, much less. Really, the story of the Phaeton’s failure isn’t as simple as “stupid Americans being badge snobs,” though that was part of it.

But a bigger component was the fact that Volkswagen had prepared a huge marketing effort to promote its new flagship cars, which were the Phaeton and the V10 Touareg. Among other things, this included special sections of the showroom for the stores that would sell those cars, as well as a huge marketing budget.

And then they pulled back at the eleventh hour, and simply released both cars without fanfare or much marketing.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
2 years ago

Lack of hard knobs for volume etc. aside, that dashboard is the correct way to integrate an infotainment screen. No plonk on tablet garbage.

I knew someone who leased a new Phaeton and had it for five years. He claimed to have never had any issues with it at all. Then again, he has said that about Jaguars and Range Rovers he has also had…

Cool Dave
Cool Dave
2 years ago

Gotta read between the lines.. HE never had any problems since it was a lease and he didn’t have to fix it, I bet his dealer had lots of problems.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
2 years ago
Reply to  Cool Dave

Well of course, but I didn’t think I’d have to spell that out here. 😉

I’m pretty sure these types of cars are targeted to that audience anyway. After lease is up: move on. Sad but true. As long as land fill space is available that’s how we will live.

JRW
JRW
2 years ago

Do not lend him any tools.

Ben
Ben
2 years ago

“And maybe the most absurd, but the Phaeton needed to able to drive all day at 186 mph in 120 degree temperatures while keeping the cabin at a cozy 71.6 degrees.”

“Mine worked well for all of an hour before the troubles started. It had a knack for overheating…”

That was just the engine sacrificing itself so the AC could keep you at 71.6. 😉

Ivan256
Ivan256
2 years ago
Reply to  Ben

I’m certain he specified 22 degrees celsius. Not 71.6 degrees Fahrenheit.

His_Stigness
His_Stigness
2 years ago
Reply to  Ivan256

I can guarantee he specified 22C because that’s what VWs default to even today.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
2 years ago
Reply to  His_Stigness

I didn’t know that. That’s pretty cool.

Doctor Nine
Doctor Nine
2 years ago

Well, not hot, but not really cool either. Sort of lukewarm.

Smartascii
Smartascii
2 years ago
Reply to  Ben

This particular requirement is one I’ve heard before, and it’s puzzling. At that speed, you have all kinds of airflow to dissipate heat. Wouldn’t it have been far more impressive if it could idle all day in high heat and maintain the cabin temperature? Even my new cars seem to have a hard time with this, especially if the recirculate function is off.

Gabriel Jones
Gabriel Jones
2 years ago
Reply to  Smartascii

Think of the HP required to push this barge through the air at 186 mph. Now remember that only about 40% of gasoline energy is converted to mechanical energy. 60% is converted to heat. There is more than an order of magnitude more heat to deal with at those speeds.

Phuzz
Phuzz
2 years ago
Reply to  Ben

The question is, did it make 186 miles, in the hour that it lived for?

Man With A Reliable Jeep
Man With A Reliable Jeep
2 years ago

I love what the Phaeton stood for. It was like a car born out of a hypothetical Deutsch version of the Japanese Bubble Era ridiculousness, delayed by a couple decades.

This one is on my automotive bucket list.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
2 years ago

I still say they could have taken a Passat, given it a vinyl roof and a hood ornament, maybe done some fancier tufted upholstery inside, called it the Passat Phaeton, and it would have sold just as well for a much thicker profit margin. Could have had, I don’t know, maybe Tony Marshall, doing the TV ads

Bomber
Bomber
2 years ago

Velour couches, right?

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
2 years ago

Don’t forget opera lights.

Boulevard_Yachtsman
Boulevard_Yachtsman
2 years ago

As long as it comes with white walls, count me in!

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
2 years ago

Wire wheel COVERS, and this car would the present at every restaurant that offers an early bird special in the state of Florida.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
2 years ago

Look, I think it would work if marketed correctly, with the right spokesman and maybe a good jingle

Ryan Roland
Ryan Roland
2 years ago

Someone please photo shop us one.

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
2 years ago

That looks like the nicest Passat ever made.

Joking aside, that interior is gorgeous. I would not be shocked to see it show up in an Audi A8.

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