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This VW Type 4 For Sale Has A Detail That Makes Absolutely No Sense UPDATED

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The Volkswagen Type 4 is one of those fascinating failures that I can’t help but love. To be fair, though, I don’t really think a car that sold nearly 370,000 copies should be considered a failure. Sure, VW’s attempt to apply the circa 1938 rear-engine, air-cooled formula to a modern, unibody, mid-size luxury family car was something of a dead end, but the car itself, I think at least, was pretty damn cool.

Type 4s don’t come up for sale very often, so when a decent-looking one does show up, it’s pretty exciting. That’s why I was so excited to see this 1972 VW 412 Fastback for sale. It’s sold now, but before it was, I giddily sent the ad to our man The Bishop, who grew up in the back of a Type 4 wagon.

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This one looked surprisingly clean and in good shape, with a straight body and decent paint that looked to be Saturn Yellow, one of my favorite ’70s VW colors.

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The car looked like a great example of a two-door Type 4! But there was one little thing off.

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I didn’t really register it fully from the lone exterior shot in the ad, but there was one more picture, of the interior.

The interior looked unexpectedly good. But as we looked closer at the interior, something strange became evident. A detail, perhaps, but a significant detail. A deeply complex and confusing detail, one that absolutely baffles me the more I think about it. Let me explain.

First, let’s look at this interior shot, and one part of it specifically:

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See that? There’s a vent window there in the door, with an extra window crank, presumably to open and close that vent window. The main window crank is there, too, obscured behind the steering wheel. That vent window crank is very unusual for Volkswagen, which always did vent windows using this tilting-knob mechanism:

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But, the Type 4 was VW’s luxury car, so maybe it makes sense that it would have a much more refined vent-window-opening solution, right? Sure it would! Except for one thing:

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The Type 4 never had vent windows.

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Yes, that’s right! The Type 4 was never intended to have vent windows! Vent windows are archaic, anyway, right? I mean, look what VW had instead of vent windows in the Type 4, right from the Owner’s Manual:

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See that? The windows had a little funny-shaped notch that would let a bit of air in if you rolled the window down a tiny bit; that was the future, after all. But note, there is no vent window there. Let’s look at a brochure, just to really drive it home:

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No vent windows!

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Okay, now we get to the real madness: why the hell would someone go through the extremely non-trivial effort of installing vent windows in a car that never had them? And this wasn’t from a Type 3 or Type 2 or even a Type 1, none of those used a crank mechanism, and none would have fit.

Think about it – think about the effort involved here! You’d have to have glass specially cut and shaped, you’d have to have a whole new window track installed for the shorter window, you’d have to rig up whatever the hell that crank mechanism is – the amount of sheer effort displayed here is staggering.

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And why? For what? A bit of extra air? This car is even fitted with air conditioning, I can see the knobs on the dash! Nothing makes sense!

I just can’t wrap my head around this, around any of this. Of all the modifications you could make, why this one? The work/reward ratio makes no sense at all! I love it so much but it scares me, too – it’s like discovering a massive manifesto written by someone you love. It’s evidence of something deeply wrong, but at the same time weirdly impressive, just from the subtle yet obvious amount of work involved here.

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I need some answers. Or even some theories. Just help me make sense of this. Please.

UPDATE: Holy crap, you guys are incredible! An Autopian named Urban Runabout solved this mystery: it was a taxi spec Type 4! Look!

There it is! Complete with the little crank! Dammit, I didn’t even think about a damn taxi-spec car!

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How did a taxi spec Type 4 end up here? Also, the Taxi spec cars were four door ones? Maybe they just got some taxi spec doors and put them on a two-door? Anyway, I knew someone would have the answer. I’m just embarassed I didn’t think of this option!

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Flyingstitch
Flyingstitch
1 hour ago

The clue was there all along. The color.

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
4 hours ago

In the 90s when I subscribed to all the VW magazines, it seemed standard for people to remove the quarter lights for a single pane: going for the clean look. I loved the ventilation—and not just because I smoked at the time.

When I got the hand-me-down Rabbit LS together and took it for a good ride on the Parkway, I found that the combination of the open quarter lights and sunroof led to me looking like a Cockatoo. I grabbed my grandfather’s old Oster and had myself a Brittany Spears moment: I’d had long hair for 20ish years, and it was time for a change. Do wish I had talked a Polaroid selfie first, though.

Martin Ibert
Martin Ibert
6 hours ago

Surely the four-door front doors are shorter than the two-door front doors?

Stavers69
Stavers69
8 hours ago

Not sure if it’s just a UK think but I would call those little opening windows quarter lights which I think is just a cool name.

Mark Hughes
Mark Hughes
7 hours ago
Reply to  Stavers69

I have just restored and fitted opening quarterlights to my VW T3, They are a great upgrade I think. But until this article I had never heard them called anything else.

Usernametaken
Usernametaken
11 hours ago

While it was out of fashion by my era, I can still identify the cause.

Torch, you clearly have not yet seen the draft, for the truest of all automotive fetishes is to worship at the altar that is the Almighty breeze gifted unto us by the vent window.

Surely the Ventnutians are dwindling in numbers, but their fervent love of that most all calming air originating from a vent window at 42 miles per hour still lives on, and you must respect their most pious and strict observations allowing them to partake of the sacrament that is the vent window

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
8 hours ago
Reply to  Usernametaken

Vent windows are the best. Well, breezeway Mercuries are up there too but vent windows are my most missed automotive feature.
You think taillights have a following but the Ventnutians have a passion that burns at a white heat awaiting the return of vent windows.

Rob Schneider
Rob Schneider
14 hours ago

I love the articles like this, but I really do wonder – how do you even spot these little inconsistencies? Torch, you have an amazing mind!

Double Wide Harvey Park
Double Wide Harvey Park
7 hours ago

It is now well established you and the bishop are the same person.

Knowonelse
Knowonelse
15 hours ago

I’ve seen that notch in the window glass of an early bug. It is an older feature brought forward, not a “new” one for this vehicle.

DriveSheSaid
DriveSheSaid
15 hours ago

Necessity is the mother of inVENTion!

Beachbumberry
Beachbumberry
13 hours ago
Reply to  DriveSheSaid

You take your star!

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
15 hours ago
Reply to  Bob

Well done!

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
15 hours ago

Well, actually…
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/8_1971_411e_taxi_german.php
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/1971_411_taxi_german.php

BTW – Saturn Yellow was a Super Beetle Cabriolet (See Goldie Hawn’s Beetle in “Foul Play”) and Karman Ghia color…
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/1973colors.php

Texas Yellow was a 411 color – as noted in the brochure photo you have posted immediately below your line about the color.

Last edited 15 hours ago by Urban Runabout
OttosPhotos
OttosPhotos
15 hours ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Nice find, you can see the crank in the first brochure.

Dead Elvis, Inc.
Dead Elvis, Inc.
10 hours ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Great find, but what’s the purpose of that second window crank – just to operate the vent wing? (What absurd, unneeded complexity, if so.) My last German lessons were more than 30 years ago, so that might as well be Greek to me.

Last edited 10 hours ago by Dead Elvis, Inc.
A. Barth
A. Barth
15 hours ago

SEMA build.

William Domer
William Domer
15 hours ago

Aliens obviously. That bent window is a portal to a wormhole to another galaxy. The entire galaxy is pushing through space using VW flat engines from square backs

Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
14 hours ago
Reply to  William Domer

Wasn’t us this time!

Bob
Bob
15 hours ago

STEF!!!

(’72 Squareback doors?)

Last edited 15 hours ago by Bob
Gene1969
Gene1969
15 hours ago
Reply to  Bob

This is the correct answer.

Dead Elvis, Inc.
Dead Elvis, Inc.
10 hours ago
Reply to  Gene1969

It’s not, per the update.

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